tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post4195868601004969058..comments2009-11-21T20:15:59.421-08:00Comments on Unofficial Nirvanix Users Forum: Mediamax commentLuzo Orbithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06650081189927251018noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-2362725227556941512008-08-11T12:09:00.000-07:002008-08-11T12:09:00.000-07:00I have tried to get answers to some of these quest...I have tried to get answers to some of these question in a conversation with Steve Iverson on the last day of operation of The Linkup 'service'.<BR/><BR/>See the next post for details.Luzo Orbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650081189927251018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-61745159502875707622008-08-11T06:27:00.000-07:002008-08-11T06:27:00.000-07:00Nirvanix are boasting on their news section about ...Nirvanix are boasting on their news section about how they have been listed as one of the companies to watch according to this website -<BR/><BR/>http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/073108-10-storage-companies.html?page=2<BR/><BR/>The website accepts comments....I expect you all to do your bit lol.<BR/><BR/>I have just posted this - <BR/><BR/>Nirvanix as a one to watch eh?<BR/><BR/>This would be the same company that spun off from Streamload / Mediamax and The Linkup who have just declared themselves bankrupt.<BR/><BR/>This would be the same Nirvanix that "allegedly" deleted thousands of paying customers files, files that they "allegedly" should never have had access to if they aren't anything to do with Streamload and Mediamax.<BR/><BR/>They are claiming, according to their blog that they are nothing to do with Streamload / Mediamax and The Linkup, well if that's so how come they "allegedly" had access to Mediamax customers data, that they "allegedly" deleted.<BR/><BR/>This would be the same Patrick Harr who was involved at the highest levels in the Mediamax and Streamload companies.<BR/><BR/>I would strongly suggest before you give Nirvanix your data you do your homework on them.<BR/><BR/>You can read about Nirvanix here - http://nirvanixusers.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>I don't know if they will accept it but we have to try!<BR/><BR/>Dave.<BR/>wordpress.partyoflifeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-84757669394343405782008-08-10T12:10:00.000-07:002008-08-10T12:10:00.000-07:00@epgThanks for your comment. But I find it hard to...@epg<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comment. But I find it hard to comprehend that they'd engineer the screwup just to get rid of the users. They could have easily split up into Nirvanix and continue to use the old Streamload software as the basis for MediaMax and then maybe just decide to shut it down once Nirvanix was up.<BR/><BR/>No need to blow the whole thing up. I'm not even referring on the lost data fiasco. MediaMax it self, even with new data was not working properly. So it just seems like they launched it without any real testing - which is a shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-42181982161912588012008-08-10T07:55:00.000-07:002008-08-10T07:55:00.000-07:00@anonymous. From what I understand, the reason Str...@anonymous. <BR/><BR/>From what I understand, the reason Streamload switched to Mediamax was as follows.<BR/><BR/>Patrick Harr was brought in after 4successful years of Streamload, mostly to attract more VC. Streamload had a lot of free and/or inactive users that were just consuming space and bandwidth and weren't making Streamload much revenue. Additionally, the Streamload system was not scalable to bigger/more users.<BR/><BR/>So Patric Harr along with some VCs decide to split the company into mediamax, (i.e. all the non-profitable users of Streamload, that's us) and Nirvanix.<BR/><BR/>At around this time Nirvanix redesigns the backend. Streamload tries to scale/redesign into Mediamax. Big screwup, many files lost.<BR/><BR/>Mediamax never working, still lots of free users hanging on hoping things get better. Mediamax moves to TLU, another disaster, non-profitable customers finally gone.<BR/><BR/>The way I see it, it was a premeditated, well-planned out move for a company to get rid of its non-profitable users. Their strategy worked. Mediamax/TLU gone, Nirvanix comes off smelling like roses, lots of big corporate clients, at the sacrifice of us, the non-profitable customers.<BR/><BR/>Badly handled for us, but obviously from the point of view of Streamload->Nirvanix, it is brilliant. They have 12 million in VC funding.<BR/><BR/>Note I am not a SL/MM/TL/Nirvanix employee, this is just simply what I deduce from the news articles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-47195735273607526502008-08-10T07:03:00.000-07:002008-08-10T07:03:00.000-07:00RIP TLU "Unfortunately The Linkup service is no lo...RIP TLU <BR/><BR/>"Unfortunately The Linkup service is no longer available. Please visit box.net for your storage needs."<BR/><BR/>Well it's dead. Now there is a flash animation displaying MM screen shots etc. Which strangely if you click it takes you to a tetris like game?!!!<BR/><BR/>Run by a Per Cederberg. Software engineer for Ongame Studios.<BR/><BR/>Plus the BOX.net promos. In fact the two sites look more an more linked everyday...<BR/><BR/>I would have thought there would have been some new by now. 2 days after all our files were officaly taken off TLU?? And Iverson's announcement. Nirvanix not's going to budge in helping us get files back, nor TLU. Which is dead now. <BR/><BR/>RIP the lotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-16993575577495710422008-08-09T20:36:00.000-07:002008-08-09T20:36:00.000-07:00Yes, and MM was finally working will just before T...Yes, and MM was finally working will just before TLU and why they thought TLU was a good idea is baffling. Just a online file sharing service with no other added value in a market now with many other similar companies.<BR/><BR/>We need to try to do something while, I hope, the files still exist. I am willing to help and perhaps even pay for a programmer but I do not have the contacts or technical knowledge. If I new exactly what needed to be done I would at least try to help. I was researching programmings and the Streamload SDK and api but then I realized no programmer could do anything without the MM frontend itself activate. Is it possible to build another program that can access the data. Would Nirvanix and/or MM help-- at least provide guidance. I mean where is MM frontend now.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08587125147618722859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-73367507108009981792008-08-09T17:10:00.000-07:002008-08-09T17:10:00.000-07:00What I'm really curious is that Streamload worked ...What I'm really curious is that Streamload worked fine and things started going downhill with MediaMax.<BR/><BR/>I know its pointless now, but can someone from StreamLoad/MediaMax/TheLinkup explain the reason for switching? Did you guys really feel that MediaMax was so much more superior? It was pretty evident right from the start that MediaMax sucked. Did you guys not do any serious load testing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-79074390523025970132008-08-09T13:43:00.000-07:002008-08-09T13:43:00.000-07:00Don't know if you guys saw this already, but might...Don't know if you guys saw this already, but might be a good place to consolidate efforts. Around 500 signatories so far, a petition to the BBB against Streamload/Mediamax/TLU:<BR/><BR/>http://www.petitiononline.com/15pop121/petition.html<BR/><BR/>And other horror stories from other users can be found here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/07/11/mediamax-is-dead-the-linkup-is-dead-streamload-is-dead/<BR/><BR/>(The stories from the lawyer are especially frightening)<BR/><BR/>Unhappy reading. :( .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-89291536214641775912008-08-07T20:01:00.000-07:002008-08-07T20:01:00.000-07:00Another email from TLU that they are closing with ...Another email from TLU that they are closing with a discount for us from Box.net. Just spitting on us now. <BR/><BR/>Trying to be constructive, if Mirvanix claims the data is accessible with a frontend what would it take to build another on. It wouldn't have to be anything fancy, no gui, just something simple to get a file list. Could that be done without MM or would it still need data from the front end to access the data.<BR/><BR/>We need to watch who if anyone ever sues MM or we need to do something just to try to get MM or the data needed to access Nirvanix.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08587125147618722859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-73312257877404276002008-08-07T19:58:00.000-07:002008-08-07T19:58:00.000-07:00A recent email from TLU about the closure on the 8...A recent email from TLU about the closure on the 8th. Amazing how they are sending this out frequently but never did the same for the move over and loss of files. <BR/><BR/>Quote-(For a reliable alternative, please check out www.box.net or keep reading.)<BR/><BR/>However, we are pleased to recommend a reliable alternative service: Box.net. Trusted by nearly 2 million people and in business since 2005, Box.net can meet your file storage and sharing needs. Box.net is offering a 14-day Free Trial on its premium subscription plans so you can try it without any risk. Please click here (http://www.box.net) to register and begin uploading your files. / end quote<BR/><BR/>To put this much advertising in. Both on the site, and now in email, I would say a deal has been done there. Either that or Box.net is capitlizing on the closure and offered to pay for the advertising. Or TLU staff are hoping for jobs there. I think it's the paid advertising. <BR/><BR/>This rubs me slightly the wrong way as TLU is allegedly filing for bankruptcy but still making money in that case based on our losses. I am now with several other online storage companies and am quite happy. Neither of whome is Box.net which is nothing to do with this affiliation to TLU. Though it wouldn't help either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-39780845936010031862008-08-07T18:37:00.000-07:002008-08-07T18:37:00.000-07:00Hey Luzo, was there any response from Nirvanix to ...Hey Luzo, was there any response from Nirvanix to Iverson's comments?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-11155925206805355572008-08-07T13:44:00.000-07:002008-08-07T13:44:00.000-07:00Finally! Everything sorted, downloaded and deleted...Finally! Everything sorted, downloaded and deleted. Good bye SL/MM/TLU!<BR/><BR/>And, I'm very sorry to say, good bye to all of my files that went missing when SL became MM.<BR/><BR/>I will continue to read this blog to se how things turn out.<BR/><BR/>McBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-69331379177939055262008-08-07T07:41:00.000-07:002008-08-07T07:41:00.000-07:00By the way, if you still haven't got your file...By the way, if you still haven't got your files out of TLU, try using a fast download manager. I found this one:<BR/><BR/>http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/download.htm<BR/><BR/>Very good and easy to use (and it is VERY fast!!).<BR/><BR/>Just pop it open, then on your TLU web browser window, select the folder you want to download, and click "download". On the download page click on "copy links to clipboard". Then, on the FDM window, go File->import->import list of URL from clipboard, then "o.k.". Downloads begin automatically.<BR/><BR/>Good luck!Elisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14854777937492094156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-1117524482745155892008-08-07T07:24:00.000-07:002008-08-07T07:24:00.000-07:00Today I started deleting my TLU files and soon dis...Today I started deleting my TLU files and soon discovered that even more files that were previously not there have now arrived. So I will be downloading everything a third time just to be sure.<BR/><BR/>John Hood said long time ago that nothing else would be transferred but that's not the case for me.<BR/><BR/>McBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-87933529587758243152008-08-07T07:07:00.000-07:002008-08-07T07:07:00.000-07:00Hi Luzo, I posted this comment mistakenly in an ol...Hi Luzo, I posted this comment mistakenly in an older blog entry, but it belongs here (delete the duplicate if you like, I believe it is in the July 18 post) <BR/><BR/><BR/>I just saw this article:<BR/><BR/>http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008/07/31/mediamax-thelinkup-death-spiral-dogs-nirvanix<BR/><BR/>Judging from the quoted Steve Iverson at the end, it seems that the real reason we won't be seeing our files is simply that: it is not economically viable.<BR/><BR/>That's the reason, folks. It is not a technical issue, it is not a fingerpointing issue, it is not a storage issue.<BR/><BR/>What is happening is, Steve Iverson is off to some other employer. John Hood no longer works at TLU, and Patrick Harr is CEO of "different" company Nirvanix which is modestly (it appears) successful (or at least has 12 million--gasp! That much for a company so mired in muck!!--in venture capital to ride on).<BR/><BR/>Bottom line is: Streamload/Mediamax/TLU has no money, so who would pay engineers to fix their software that retrieves the files?<BR/><BR/>We the disgruntled users, unfortunately, cannot force them, as given they declared banktrupcy, I don't see how we could force them to get the funds to hire a compentent engineering team. They wriggled themselves out of the whole fiasco!<BR/><BR/>Only hope is to get NIRVANIX (that has the money) to cough up our files.<BR/><BR/>AND make sure the story is out there. Patrick Harr ignored Streamload customers (paying and non) because they brought nothing in revenue, thus the split in the first place and the move from Streamload to Mediamax. He put profits ahead of his customers, and the gamble paid off, at least for the Nirvanix side (i.e. Harr's side!).<BR/><BR/>Up to the voices on the internet to make sure Harr doesn't get away with it.<BR/><BR/>Neither Iverson nor John Hood.<BR/><BR/>Make sure no one ever hires them again. Get our stories out there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-28312917364870291682008-08-07T01:54:00.000-07:002008-08-07T01:54:00.000-07:00I have been in contact with the box sales trying t...I have been in contact with the box sales trying to work out a deal.<BR/>They sounded positive but they couldn't present an offerJDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15141403970001794882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-21860909921979836502008-08-06T19:47:00.000-07:002008-08-06T19:47:00.000-07:00ElephantDrive has a entry on their blog reaching o...ElephantDrive has a entry on their blog reaching out to TLU users although I do not think they offer a special deal. They do claim to have contacted tlu about trying to find a solution.<BR/>http://elephantdrive.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/help-users-migrate-from-thelinkup-to-elephantdrive/#commentsUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08587125147618722859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-30497663716590212522008-08-06T12:21:00.000-07:002008-08-06T12:21:00.000-07:00I have not found any connection between the two co...I have not found any connection between the two companies. <BR/><BR/>I think that Box.net is trying to capitalize on the issue - they know there are thousands of disgruntled MM/TLU/SL users looking for new storage solutions and they're trying to take advantage. Which is smart. They're offering former MM members a discount. <BR/><BR/>I didn't take them up on it - I'm using the "free" account, which gives you (I think) about 1 GB of storage for free. I've had it for about 6 months and so far I like it. But I learned my lesson and am now backing up all my stuff to another location, as well - not storing all my eggs in one basket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-79043649182149757402008-08-06T11:50:00.000-07:002008-08-06T11:50:00.000-07:00Katie here.Kudos to Dave of Wordpress for his 'rev...Katie here.<BR/>Kudos to Dave of Wordpress for his 'review' of Iverson's comments. Mud-slinging, indeed. <BR/><BR/>As is usually the case, if it would cost either the old MM management or Nirvanix any MONEY to access the MM database, they aren't going to 'go there'. Bankruptcy or not, I bet TLU's upper management did well financially, and they have no intention of parting with any of it.<BR/><BR/>Many thanks to Luzo Orbit for his hard work and dedication, along with the other posters here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-54935042419235396432008-08-06T03:29:00.000-07:002008-08-06T03:29:00.000-07:00A few weeks ago someone tried to post a comment on...A few weeks ago someone tried to post a comment on my blog from a company called The Box offering special rates to old Mediamax users in the wake of all the fallout.<BR/><BR/>I now see they are 'advertising' on The Linkup website.<BR/><BR/>Now call me suspicious......but...this smells a little to me!<BR/><BR/>Tom, I see you say you have an account with them, can you have a dig around and see if there is any connection to Iverson and the rest of his cronies?<BR/><BR/>Dave.<BR/>wordpress.partyoflifeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-19334079791960704002008-08-05T23:16:00.000-07:002008-08-05T23:16:00.000-07:00Maybe that's where steve thinks he's going. Good j...<I><B>Maybe that's where steve thinks he's going. Good job I don't have an account there!</B></I><BR/><BR/>I have an account at Box.net and it works great for me. I don't think Iverson is the guy who lost all our files, but he shares some of the blame for the lies & obfuscation. If he does go to Box.net, I'm sure it won't be in a management position, after the Mediamax debacle.<BR/><BR/>Why is he coming clean NOW? Maybe because he is under attack from Nirvanix? Well, whatever - at least the truth is coming out - better late than never, I guess. If it takes a war between the two companies - so be it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-29319005338968118952008-08-05T20:51:00.000-07:002008-08-05T20:51:00.000-07:00I agree with Luzo's last comment. There would be m...I agree with Luzo's last comment. <BR/><BR/>There would be multiple backups to the MM Database. If the company is going bust, then so be it. Hand the front end over to Nirvanix. <BR/><BR/>Nirvanix charge us to get to the files back. <BR/><BR/>I still think they screwed the hardware up. <BR/><BR/>Anyone notice the Box.net advertising on TLU website. Maybe that's where steve thinks he's going. Good job I don't have an account there!<BR/><BR/>If TLU is hoping to sell their front end MM DB then give it to Nirvanix for a fixed period first. Show some decency. <BR/><BR/>The longer this goes on the more it discredits Nirvanix. TLU is already dust. HAnding the the front end over will at least me good for you morallyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-18877196024304489072008-08-05T08:07:00.000-07:002008-08-05T08:07:00.000-07:00Nirvanix was very clear in saying that the data th...Nirvanix was very clear in saying that the data that did not transfer from the Mediamax system to The Linkup remains on their servers and they will continue to store it after 8 August while a solution is sought. Nirvanix has said this data can be accessed with the Mediamax database. I imagine there are multiple backups of the database from different times, so even if one was somehow corrupted, we could return to an earlier snapshot of the data Nirvanix tells us it is maintaining on its servers.<BR/><BR/>Rather than arguing that Nirvanix is being inaccurate in saying the data is available on its servers, it seems to me that the best route for Mediamax is to agree to provide access to the database. The next move is then for Nirvanix.Luzo Orbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650081189927251018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-44476557209941987542008-08-05T07:39:00.000-07:002008-08-05T07:39:00.000-07:00I think there must be some problem with the Stream...I think there must be some problem with the Streamload/MM data on Nirvanix. Perhaps in creating the new Nirvanix file system access to old data became impossible and Nirvanix doesn't want to support the old system. <BR/><BR/>It is the front end that I believe holds all the file info such as account ownership. I also believe MM frontend works because in the months prior to TLU it was working better than ever which is what finally convinced me that they got their act together and commit to using it as my backup for a large amount of files while traveling.<BR/><BR/>It seems the data is there and I can't see why Nirvanix would not allow access to the data unless it created some problem for them like having to spend more money or labor to support the old system. And I do not think there is anything wrong with MM because it was working fine days before TLU.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if MM could issue some sort of database table or field definition that would help a third party identify the data.<BR/><BR/>There is obviously a lot of bad blood between the two companies and this has really hurt us as well as destroying a company that could have been very successful.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08587125147618722859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1110054165096242208.post-4755542119723738462008-08-05T03:44:00.000-07:002008-08-05T03:44:00.000-07:00Interesting comment of Steve but Steve if you real...Interesting comment of Steve but Steve if you really want to start fresh again then you should give the whole story to us and not again suggestion because that happened too oftenJDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15141403970001794882noreply@blogger.com